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Offline Spurcell922

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Animas ping - occlusion detected
« on: October 24, 2012, 06:26:06 PM »
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  • First time getting the occlusion detected with the pump.  I disconnected te first part of te pump (not the site itself) and primed it until insulin came out.  Only a few units which was good. I reconnected the pump.  Do I need to be concerned about anything?  Any extra insulin being delivered now tht the occlusion has been pushed out?  Or can I safely bolus?   Didn't get any training on this and want to ale sure I shouldn't just change the site.  He's not due yet, so would hate todo it if I don't have to.   Any xperience you can share would be greatly appreciated. 
    Sarah

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    Chris, 4 yrs old, dx 11/23/11
    Adam, 2 years, non D
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    Using Dexcom G4 9/13/14

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 06:52:51 PM »
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  • What is his blood sugar?  If it is higher than you think it should be, than I might consider changing the site.  If it is fine, I would wait until you either get a second occlusion or you see the bg rise.

    Jessica
    Mom to Kristen (age 11) d/x 7/25/07 and Nathan (age 9) non-D, and Joseph (age 3)
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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 10:13:14 PM »
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  • Ugh, total disaster.   No second occlusion, but at bed time sugar was 595.  Had to do a site change, and was so scattered, used the old tubing.  Fixed that, then put in the site without priming, so had to take it out, prime and reinsert site.  Stressful and left with a very unhappy boy.   It's an hour after bed and BG is just under 500, so new site seems to be working, despite all the problems to get it in.   Any ideas on what causes occlusions? Thinking next time I'll just change the site right away instead of risking the high BG....
    Sarah

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    Adam, 2 years, non D
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    Using Dexcom G4 9/13/14

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 11:58:40 PM »
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  • We've only had the occlusion alarm twice I think, and as I recall, both times it was a kinked site. I think I'd probably go ahead & change the site next time, too.

    For what it is worth, we have changed sites and used the old tubing on occasion. I just keep the spare tubing in a baggie for the next time we change the insulin without changing a site.
    Angela, Mom to Elizabeth - 11, Luke - 9, dx 9/30/2006 and Isaiah - 6, dx 6/7/2010 both pumping with Animas Pings

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 05:56:51 AM »
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  • How is baby boy this morning?  Did the night go ok?  <hug> For the rough time.
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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 07:08:11 AM »
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  • Hope he's much better now <hug>

    Occlusion alarm on animas sounds like a no delivery on minimed... we would pull the site too.

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 07:48:05 AM »
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  • I agree.  An occlusion is  most like a problem with the site.  We always test more often when these happen because we never know just how much insulin actually got in with a failed bolus (usually not much).  This allows us to be more proactive than reactive.

    FWIW, on our MM pump, his basal rate is too low to trigger an occlusion/delivery failure alarm.  In other words, there isn't enough resistence to delivery to trigger the alarm because the insulin delivery rate is low.  Whenever we get a delivery failure, it's always been with a bolus.  However, that doesn't mean the the basal is getting in.  It probably isn't, but it's not enough pressure to trigger the alarm.
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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 11:43:42 AM »
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  • FWIW, on our MM pump, his basal rate is too low to trigger an occlusion/delivery failure alarm.  In other words, there isn't enough resistence to delivery to trigger the alarm because the insulin delivery rate is low.  Whenever we get a delivery failure, it's always been with a bolus.  However, that doesn't mean the the basal is getting in.  It probably isn't, but it's not enough pressure to trigger the alarm.

    I meant to post this about my boys last night. Even on the most sensitive setting, any basals you would have for your little guy would be too small to be detected. (This came from an Animas CDE.) We use the "when in doubt, pull it out" train of thought.
    Angela, Mom to Elizabeth - 11, Luke - 9, dx 9/30/2006 and Isaiah - 6, dx 6/7/2010 both pumping with Animas Pings

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 08:12:41 PM »
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  • Ugh, total disaster.   No second occlusion, but at bed time sugar was 595.  Had to do a site change, and was so scattered, used the old tubing.  Fixed that, then put in the site without priming, so had to take it out, prime and reinsert site.  Stressful and left with a very unhappy boy.   It's an hour after bed and BG is just under 500, so new site seems to be working, despite all the problems to get it in.   Any ideas on what causes occlusions? Thinking next time I'll just change the site right away instead of risking the high BG....

    If I accidently put in a site without priming, I disconnect the site, prime it, connect it back, fill cannulla. You don't  have to insert a new site.
    Kendell. Mom to Lexi (4 and dx 4/21/11) and Eden



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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 05:58:32 AM »
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  • He was doin much better today.  I checked him several times thought the night and he was coming down nicely.  By 6am he was 172 with no additional overnight corrections and decent numbers all day.  My gut told me to change te sitewhenthe alarm went off, buti didn't want te battle since he really dislikes them and my husband wasn't home yet.  Next time....I'll go with my gut!   Thanks for all the advice!
    Sarah

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    Chris, 4 yrs old, dx 11/23/11
    Adam, 2 years, non D
    Pumping with Animas ping 7/26/12
    Using Dexcom G4 9/13/14

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 08:36:57 AM »
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  • I know this thread is resolved but I'm going to throw in my .02 anyway.

    I had issues with occlusion and Vivs ping.  She pumps with apidra and steel sites so kinking isn't our issue.  When I called about the occlusion they told me it's the insulin. 
    Tiffany mom to 4.  T. 9-00 non-d  V. 12-02 dx 12-08  H. 3-07  E. 9-10

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    Re: Animas ping - occlusion detected
    « Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 01:30:55 PM »
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  • I know this thread is resolved but I'm going to throw in my .02 anyway.

    I had issues with occlusion and Vivs ping.  She pumps with apidra and steel sites so kinking isn't our issue.  When I called about the occlusion they told me it's the insulin.

    Interesting.  We're still using te same bottle on insulin from when this occurred and umbels seem ok, it definitely something worth looking out for!
    Sarah

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    Chris, 4 yrs old, dx 11/23/11
    Adam, 2 years, non D
    Pumping with Animas ping 7/26/12
    Using Dexcom G4 9/13/14

     


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